Comments on: Guilt, Shame and corporate identity http://elderj.wordpress.com/2007/04/23/guilt-shame-and-corporate-identity/ Reflections on faith, culture, and life Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:52:36 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Ain't No Hurt Like A Church Hurt « Next Gener.Asian Church http://elderj.wordpress.com/2007/04/23/guilt-shame-and-corporate-identity/#comment-317 Ain't No Hurt Like A Church Hurt « Next Gener.Asian Church Mon, 14 May 2007 17:06:29 +0000 http://elderj.wordpress.com/2007/04/23/guilt-shame-and-corporate-identity/#comment-317 [...] like saying the walking wounded made it all the way to the hospital. I don’t know about all the collective shame our Asian culture professes, but I feel the same way I did when my wife told me yesterday of a doctor not calling the right [...] [...] like saying the walking wounded made it all the way to the hospital. I don’t know about all the collective shame our Asian culture professes, but I feel the same way I did when my wife told me yesterday of a doctor not calling the right [...]

]]> By: e cho http://elderj.wordpress.com/2007/04/23/guilt-shame-and-corporate-identity/#comment-263 e cho Tue, 24 Apr 2007 23:21:30 +0000 http://elderj.wordpress.com/2007/04/23/guilt-shame-and-corporate-identity/#comment-263 thanks for a good word. linked it so others, hopefully, might have a chance to read it as well. peace. thanks for a good word. linked it so others, hopefully, might have a chance to read it as well. peace.

]]> By: crying for 33 | seattle PI guest column « Beauty and Depravity | Eugene Cho’s Blog http://elderj.wordpress.com/2007/04/23/guilt-shame-and-corporate-identity/#comment-261 crying for 33 | seattle PI guest column « Beauty and Depravity | Eugene Cho’s Blog Tue, 24 Apr 2007 08:25:56 +0000 http://elderj.wordpress.com/2007/04/23/guilt-shame-and-corporate-identity/#comment-261 [...] Relevant Reads: Cho Family Statement [Sun Kyung Cho], Guilt, Shame,and Corporate Identity [elderj], To Blame is Human [James Choung], A Lesson in Your Apology [Philadelphia Enquire [...] [...] Relevant Reads: Cho Family Statement [Sun Kyung Cho], Guilt, Shame,and Corporate Identity [elderj], To Blame is Human [James Choung], A Lesson in Your Apology [Philadelphia Enquire [...]

]]> By: James http://elderj.wordpress.com/2007/04/23/guilt-shame-and-corporate-identity/#comment-260 James Tue, 24 Apr 2007 03:48:44 +0000 http://elderj.wordpress.com/2007/04/23/guilt-shame-and-corporate-identity/#comment-260 Preach! You've captured a tension in the AA community -- some of us emphasize the home culture so much that we forget that we are citizens of this one as well, while others identify so much here that we forget that we are also of a cultural and ethnic heritage that still helps to forge our identity. We're in between cultures, and instead of trying to escape one side, there is great blessings in receiving the blessings and redeeming the curses of both. And yes, Nehemiah (and Daniel) are great examplars of people who did no wrong yet identified with a culture that did -- and confessed. I've been very heartened by the response of the Korean and KA communities -- they could've tried to distance themselves from the gunman. Instead, they, on the most part, expressed remorse and grief. And its in the tears -- instead of a shift in blame -- that healing flows. And on the side, you just waxed eloquent with this line: "Cognitive knowledge of one’s own innocence is no vaccine against the collectivist culture that is imbibed in one’s mother’s milk." What's up, Shakespeare? Preach! You’ve captured a tension in the AA community — some of us emphasize the home culture so much that we forget that we are citizens of this one as well, while others identify so much here that we forget that we are also of a cultural and ethnic heritage that still helps to forge our identity. We’re in between cultures, and instead of trying to escape one side, there is great blessings in receiving the blessings and redeeming the curses of both.

And yes, Nehemiah (and Daniel) are great examplars of people who did no wrong yet identified with a culture that did — and confessed. I’ve been very heartened by the response of the Korean and KA communities — they could’ve tried to distance themselves from the gunman. Instead, they, on the most part, expressed remorse and grief. And its in the tears — instead of a shift in blame — that healing flows.

And on the side, you just waxed eloquent with this line: “Cognitive knowledge of one’s own innocence is no vaccine against the collectivist culture that is imbibed in one’s mother’s milk.” What’s up, Shakespeare?

]]> By: elderj http://elderj.wordpress.com/2007/04/23/guilt-shame-and-corporate-identity/#comment-259 elderj Tue, 24 Apr 2007 01:05:25 +0000 http://elderj.wordpress.com/2007/04/23/guilt-shame-and-corporate-identity/#comment-259 well Josh it depends on what it is you want to quote me on. Email me and we'll chat well Josh it depends on what it is you want to quote me on. Email me and we’ll chat

]]> By: Josh http://elderj.wordpress.com/2007/04/23/guilt-shame-and-corporate-identity/#comment-258 Josh Mon, 23 Apr 2007 22:03:39 +0000 http://elderj.wordpress.com/2007/04/23/guilt-shame-and-corporate-identity/#comment-258 if I were to share something at friday's prayer/worship event, could I quote you on some of this? :) if I were to share something at friday’s prayer/worship event, could I quote you on some of this? :)

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